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about RipMobile and what it is about
Click here to read an interview
with Seth Heine, founder of RipMobile and CollectiveGood in Grist
Magazine, July 2005
RIPMobile
is a division of CollectiveGood Inc.,
developing innovative new ways to
motivate recycling by offering a cool
reward system. We want to reach the
young crowd, who have access to millions
of used mobile phones, and pay them to
keep that toxic waste out of landfills
and incinerators. This accomplishes our
mission of protecting the environment,
getting phones into reuse in developing
countries, and ingraining recycling as a
rewarding experience.
CollectiveGood, RIPMobile's parent, is
well known for award-winning mobile
device recycling programs that fund
charities via the recycling process,
converting old cell phones into
financial support for groups like CARE
who then use the funds to help victims
of the Tsunami crises in East Asia.
CollectiveGood has programs in place
with hundreds of non-profits of all
sorts, has collected hundreds of
thousands of phones and generated
hundreds of thousands of dollars for
charity. A portion of the profits from
RIPMobile will be distributed to
charities through the CollectiveGood
Foundation, in keeping with the
company's commitment to world-saving
tactics.
Founded five years ago, CollectiveGood
is the nation's premier mobile phone
recycling company, converting idle, yet
functional mobile phones back into reuse
in the developing world. CollectiveGood
refurbishes and recycles mobile phones
in an environmentally friendly manner.
The company also collects pagers, PDAs
and ink jet cartridges at more than 1500
locations throughout North America.
For more information, e-mail us at
info@ripmobile.com
or call 770-856-9021.
Shipping instructions: Note that
RIPMobile always offers free shipping
for your phones, be sure to get the free
postage label at the end of the
registration process.
Our Refurbishment Center
(where all phones should be sent)
RIPMobile
Your Customer Number
5763 Arapahoe Ave. Unit G Boulder, CO 80303-1350 USA
For General Information Or Inquiries:
To reach to our management team, give us
a call, or send an e-mail:
service@RIPMobile.com
Telephone: 770-856-9021
email :
Info@ripmobile.com
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Interview with Seth Heine, founder of
CollectiveGood in Grist Magazine, July 2005
Revenge of the Seth
Seth Heine of CollectiveGood answers Grist's questions
11 Jul 2005
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Questions from Grist editors
Q: With what environmental organizations are you affiliated?
A: I'm the president of CollectiveGood and RIPMobile.com --
mobile phone recyclers.
Q: What do your organizations do? What, in a perfect world, would
constitute "mission accomplished"?
A: CollectiveGood recycles mobile devices (phones, pagers,
PDAs) and all of their related accessories, usually in partnerships
with charities, companies, and/or governments. We also just launched
a new division, RIPMobile.com, which buys used mobile phones
directly from the public, paying people for their phones in the form
of content (music downloads, ring tones) or gift certificates from
companies like Circuit City -- making recycling fun and rewarding
for young people.
Some 550 million used mobile phones in the U.S. are waiting to go
into landfills. Only about 1 percent of what is out there is being
collected and recycled right now, and the environmental consequences
of hundreds of millions of phones going into the garbage can rather
than being recycled are severe -- hundreds of thousands of tons of
toxic waste (mobile phones contain lead, cadmium, mercury,
beryllium, arsenic, and much more) are threatening our food and
water supplies.
Our programs help protect the environment from these toxins and make
us less dependent on strip mining the earth for metals like gold and
copper; they also help fund charities and get handsets into the
developing world.
In a perfect world, everyone would recycle their mobile phones,
preferably through our programs, and this problem would simply go
away. But recycling is a learned behavior, and it will probably be
some time before everyone learns to apply it to used consumer
electronics, not just paper, glass, and cans. We recognize that the
motivation to recycle is elusive for most people, so we are always
trying to figure out how to motivate them to do it. We developed
RIPMobile.com to get the public to do the right thing by making the
process feel like consuming rather than recycling.
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Q: What long and winding road led you to your
current position?
A: I was always very inquisitive and eager to learn new
things. I was exposed to international travel at an early age, and I
think the ability to see situations from other cultures'
perspectives made me a pretty flexible problem-solver. As I started
to develop some environmental consciousness -- a lot of that was
after college -- I gravitated to trying to solve problems that were
large and universal in scope.
If you are willing to work hard and smart in a disciplined manner,
why not take on big-picture issues and see if you can change the
world? I know that sounds ambitious, perhaps even naive or arrogant,
but it is fun, and the risk of failure, given the mess we are in,
isn't very intimidating.
When I saw the potential to improve the lives of hundreds of
thousands of people in Latin America, to protect the environment
from hundreds of tons of toxic waste, and to fund charities in the
process, I knew I had to give it a go.
Q: Who's the biggest pain in the ass you have to deal with?
A: The phone companies and handset manufacturers, which are
suffering a terminal case of groupthink. They do an amazing job of
plodding along, resisting change, and implementing non-sustainable
solutions; they want nothing to do with solving the problems they
clearly had a hand in creating. The cutthroat competitiveness is so
ingrained. They often seem more comfortable (programmed, even)
trying to kill you or steal your ideas than simply cooperating and
helping solve problems they need to solve anyway.
Q: Who's nicer than you would expect?
A: The consistent glimmer of hope is the involvement of
individuals and charities. Every day we receive hundreds of packages
full of old phones and accessories. These people took valuable time
out of their lives to send in their phones -- whatever their
motivation (environmental, charitable, cashing in on valuable
assets). I see each of these packages as an act of kindness and
individual responsibility. In the broader sense, the ability of
people to band together and make a difference at the grassroots
level is very powerful, effective, democratic, and encouraging.
Q: Where were you born? Where do you live now?
A: I was born in Cleveland and now live in Atlanta, by way of
Miami, Washington, D.C., California, Munich, Germany, Phoenix ...
Q: What has been the worst moment in your professional life to
date?
A: Actually, the first two years of running CollectiveGood
were the hardest, scariest, and most grueling part of my career. We
were positive we had developed a surefire recipe for saving the
world from mobile-phone waste and bridging the digital divide. As it
turns out, we were right and have set the industry in motion. But
for several business quarters in a row, we were looking bankruptcy
right in the eye.
It wasn't worth planning more than 30 days ahead for almost two
years, death seemed so imminent. It was a very trying period
psychologically, and I was pretty sure I had destroyed my career
right out of grad school -- and my marriage too.
Like Nietzsche said: "That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
I came out of it stronger as a person and better as an entrepreneur
-- and with a stronger marriage, too.
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Q: What's been the best?
A: Certainly the best part is having survived all of that and
still being here, loving my job, and relishing the fulfilling sense
that we invented what we do, fought hard to do it our way, and get
an enormous amount done every day. I think we all feel very
privileged to love our jobs and see that what we do has a very real,
positive impact on the world around us.
Q: What environmental offense has infuriated you the most?
A: People who use the guise of environmentalism to sell or
pitch products but don't really mean it irritate the hell out of me.
At its root, it's a lie. There are a lot of companies that copy what
we do, but they cut corners by asking for only the new and valuable
phones (the oldest and least valuable pose the greatest
environmental threat) and don't want the batteries or chargers,
which are also full of toxic waste. They present themselves as
environmentalists but actually perpetuate and accelerate the
problem, and profit greatly from that strategy.
Q: Who is your environmental hero?
A: Not so much a person as a place: My experience living in
Germany and sorting trash into four streams of recyclables (glass,
paper, metal, and compost) -- just like everyone else had to -- was
pretty formative. I realized how much a society can get done if we
all pull together and everyone participates. The U.S. had all kinds
of recycling programs in place during WWII because we needed to do
that to win the war. It is sad that once we returned to peacetime,
it all became trash again. We didn't learn much from that
experience.
Q: For the pragmatic environmentalist, what should be the focus
-- political action designed to change policy, or individual action
designed to change lifestyle?
A: I see leveraging grassroots activism as the most powerful
cultural tool out there, with the best potential to quickly change
lifestyles and environmental impact. Look at the power a group like
MoveOn has -- how quickly they act to empower people to change
something they don't like. That is a political example, but why
can't that same technology and strategy be used in an environmental
context?
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Q: What's your environmental vice?
A: I love sports cars and drive fast. I feel guilty about the
big smile I get on my face that way, I really do. I am happy to see
that the new hybrid cars are generally faster than conventional
gas-powered cars, and I'm looking forward to watching hybrids evolve
to take over the gas-guzzler era. The environmental and
national-security benefits of declaring war on oil will be huge.
Q: What are you reading these days?
A: I have been reading books about the start of aviation,
trying to learn more about the planes my grandfather flew when he
was young. He was one of the very first airmail pilots and was
forced to quit flying because the planes crashed all the time. Did
you know 31 of the first 40 airmail pilots crashed and died in the
first six years of service? Lucky for me, my grandmother made him
choose between her and the plane!
Q: What's your favorite meal?
A: I always love good sushi; it is so simple and tasty. That
and kung pao chicken with broccoli -- I couldn't live without that
one.
Q: Which stereotype about environmentalists most fits you?
A: I spend a lot of time trying to pick up little pieces of
trash to recycle them. It makes me feel good.
Q: What's your favorite place or ecosystem?
A: The most beautiful and inspiring place I have ever been is
the Havasupai Indian Reservation in the Grand Canyon. It is a fusion
of the lushness of Hawaii and the stark ruggedness of the canyon.
That it is difficult to get to and a bit of a secret adds to the
pleasure of being there, because you don't see many people and feel
like you have it all to yourself.
Q: What's one thing the environmental movement is doing
particularly well?
A: Learning to make the business case for environmentalism
through sustainable business practices and efficiencies. I think the
fact that GE has started to talk about it indicates a tidal shift.
Q: What's one thing the environmental movement is doing badly,
and how could it be done better?
A: One thing the environmental community needs to do better
is be less confrontational and more focused on showing businesses
the benefits of reforming. Of course, that requires someone on the
other side of the table to be listening and be interested in change.
The new generations of engineers, M.B.A.s, and management in general
tend to be more open to the fact that change is not only a constant
but an opportunity to improve constantly.
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Q: If you could institute by fiat one
environmental reform, what would it be?
A: It would be profound if we were all responsible for
processing our own waste for a week -- I mean our garbage as well as
our recyclables. If we all realized how much waste we create and how
messy our consumerism really is, people would be pretty shocked and
behavior would change quickly.
Q: What was your favorite band when you were 18? How about now?
A: I listened to a lot of Rush when I was 18, and now I
listen to a lot of jam-band stuff. It is great to see bands like
String Cheese Incident and MOE creating music that is based on
improvisation; it gives the music a life of its own, and that is
very engaging.
Q: What's your favorite TV show? Movie?
A: I am absolutely sucked into 24, and I like watching The
West Wing because of the big issues it confronts. The movie that has
touched me most is called The Journey (by Eric Saperston); it has
changed a lot of people's lives.
Q: What are you happy about right now?
A: I am happy spending time with my family, watching my
2-year-old son learn and grow. We have another one (sex unknown) due
shortly, and the sense of wonder through the whole process is so
powerful. It is a remarkable series of miracles that play out before
your eyes -- mesmerizing.
Q: If you could have every InterActivist reader do one thing,
what would it be?
A: Of course, I would want everyone to recycle their old cell
phones and accessories, preferably through either RIPMobile.com or
CollectiveGood.com, and get their friends to do it too. It is a
universal problem, but one that is free and easy to solve.
Questions from Grist editors
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